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grabassticgreg
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject: Yet ANOTHER stilleto question!...Or two...Okay, three... |
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Okay, so after being on Blade Auction (Not that I can afford it, Cam has the best deals going now!) I seen a "fake button" lockback, most likely intended for the US market sometime in the early 1960's, and the seller said that the scales were similar to the Rizzuto; so did the same company make these? Is there anyplace to find info on the Japanese made autos?
Also is anybody familiar with the "humpback" style of stilleto? I seen one there that reminded me of the lockblades from the 1970's, but its lock release was near the centor of the handle, not the end.
Okay, last one! It seems ALL the movies show the classic Italian stilleto as the knife used by anyone using an auto.
Stalag 17, The Devil's Brigade, West Side Story, 12 Angry Men, etc., is always the same style....While on Blade Auction, I found OLDER model Italian non "stilleto" style, but just as wicked looking (Among other foreign antique autos) and wonder if any of you go back far enough to remember pre-1958, or have any anecdotal info on what types were in common use by the common folk and/or "bad boys".
Is it just Hollyweird using the nastiest looking auto they could find?
Thanks all!
Regards, Greg
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Blood_drinker
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Joined: 23 Apr 2004
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Location: Yankeedom
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:11 am Post subject: Re: Yet ANOTHER stilleto question!...Or two...Okay, three... |
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| grabassticgreg wrote: | Okay, so after being on Blade Auction (Not that I can afford it, Cam has the best deals going now!) I seen a "fake button" lockback, most likely intended for the US market sometime in the early 1960's, and the seller said that the scales were similar to the Rizzuto; so did the same company make these? Is there anyplace to find info on the Japanese made autos?
Also is anybody familiar with the "humpback" style of stilleto? I seen one there that reminded me of the lockblades from the 1970's, but its lock release was near the centor of the handle, not the end.
...Is it just Hollyweird using the nastiest looking auto they could find?
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grabassticgreg -
You could do a search on www.Google.com for the Japanese auto you
speak of - there's also Bernard Levine on bladeforums.com who could
answer that.
No, I've never heard of the "humpback" stiletto.
Yeah, "Hollywood" is perpetuating fiction, as always. In fact, the lever
lock was more common in the 50's, as I understand it - the stiletto
having it's shortcomings, the leverlock was a more popular "switch".
BD
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magnum
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Joined: 22 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Greg-I can answer the humpback question.The Humpback was made in the early 1960's by a man named Emilio Martinuzzo.The blade was fired by a Coil Spring under the bottom bolster.Alot of these knives were marked with the Kissing Cranes Logo of Robert Klaas fame but they were made in Italy not Germany.The blade options were were bayonet,flat ground,and spearpoint.They were scaled in Stag Horn,Horn and Faux Mother Of Pearl.Also i should note that a few Humpbacks have appeared with a Leaf Spring but they are Rare.Hope this helps.
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Teddy
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Joined: 24 Oct 2004
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Location: UK
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:43 am Post subject: Re: Yet ANOTHER stilleto question!...Or two...Okay, three... |
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| grabassticgreg wrote: |
Also is anybody familiar with the "humpback" style of stilleto? I seen one there that reminded me of the lockblades from the 1970's, but its lock release was near the centor of the handle, not the end.
Okay, last one! It seems ALL the movies show the classic Italian stilleto as the knife used by anyone using an auto.
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Hi there..
I don't know much about the Rizzuttos but can help with the "humpbacks" .. there were quite a few different locking designs on the early stilettos.. some no doubt to avoid patent infringement.. and the humpback was among those.. where the well-known lockback had the "hump" near the bottom of the handle these had it nearer the sharp end.. here's a pic... I used this on another forum to explain something else so pardon the added graphics..
And I couldn't resist posting this pic of probably the most infamous stilettos in the history of Hollywood... 
All the best
Teddy
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grabassticgreg
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Thanks, guys! More light shed on the subjest. I was 2Y.O. in 1958, but in my early childhood never seen any automatics....Even though I was from the side of town where I would have seen them!
Yes, THAT'S the "humpback"....Now to try to find either an outo or lockback for the collection!
Thamks, Teddy for the pics. Its been YEARS since I've seen 12 Angry Men; I didn't realize the knife had decorated scales and Kriss blades(UGH!!!! Sorry, I personally like the flat ground).
Thanks for the replies; and I hope the "newbies" reading here can learn more about the "old time" autos!
Regards, Greg.
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